NO2ID Edinburgh

Previous meetings

Meetings

  1. 15 June 2010
  2. 23 February 2010
  3. 26 October 2009
  4. 30 June 2009
  5. 1 May 2009
  6. 24 February 2009
  7. 20 January 2009
  8. 26 November 2008
  9. 8 October 2008
  10. 27 May 2008
  11. 30 April 2008
  12. 5 March 2008
  13. 30 January 2008
  14. 27 November 2007
  15. 20 September 2007
  16. 25 June 2007
  17. 30 May 2007
  18. 8 March 2007
  19. 4 December 2006
  20. 25 October 2006
  21. 28 June 2006
  22. 12 April 2006
  23. 26 January 2006

30 June 2009 – Members' evening and AGM

On the first anniversary of the day nine members were arrested, the group held a "members' evening".

John Welford, David Muxworthy and John Wood were again re-elected as Edinburgh group coordinator, secretary and treasurer respectively.

Robots

Chris Halliday gave a demonstration of his robotic street theatre act and was brilliantly frightening as robot QWERK.E1.

It was interesting to discover that his main enjoyment in performing as a robot was to observe the responses and body language of the members of his audience.

Databases

David Muxworthy concentrated on his experience of maintaining databases of personal information, such as mailing lists and a large organization's internal telephone directory.

This led him to believe that the government's implicit assumption that the National Identity Register could be maintained so as to be continuously up to date was thoroughly misguided.

He also drew attention to a powerful speech against compulsory ID cards by Alistair Darling in the Commons in 1989; even twenty years ago Darling was concerned about the security of information held on computers.

History

John Welford drew attention to 'The Information State in England: The Central Collection of Information on Citizens Since 1500' by Edward Higgs (Palgrave Macmillan, 2003).

After describing the contempt for MPs shown by Oliver Cromwell in dismissing the Rump Parliament in 1653, he said that ID documents had been introduced first during the first world war in 1915. They were reintroduced in 1939 and abandoned only in 1952 after the famous Clarence Willcock case.

Great Britain being an island, compared to the Continent there was less fear of intrusion by foreigners and less need for people to be able to prove their identity at short notice. Why were ID cards being reintroduced now? It seemed that it was a consequence of 9/11.

If politicians learnt anything from the lessons of history, then during the past ten years the key recommendations which should have been listened to were:

Who's Watching You?

Tia Halliday had provisionally been invited to show her NO2ID campaign film but she was not able to attend.

Instead a short extract was shown of the recent BBC programme "Who's Watching You?" which covered ID cards, the DNA database and the storing of email and telephone communication data.