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  1. 15 June 2010
  2. 23 February 2010
  3. 26 October 2009
  4. 30 June 2009
  5. 1 May 2009
  6. 24 February 2009
  7. 20 January 2009
  8. 26 November 2008
  9. 8 October 2008
  10. 27 May 2008
  11. 30 April 2008
  12. 5 March 2008
  13. 30 January 2008
  14. 27 November 2007
  15. 20 September 2007
  16. 25 June 2007
  17. 30 May 2007
  18. 8 March 2007
  19. 4 December 2006
  20. 25 October 2006
  21. 28 June 2006
  22. 12 April 2006
  23. 26 January 2006

24 February 2009 – Bill Aitken MSP (Conservative)

Bill Aitken is Conservative MSP for Glasgow, convenor of the Justice Committee in the Scottish Parliament and season-ticket holder at Partick Thistle.

He said that it was generally accepted that the Government required to hold some information about citizens but the ID card and its associated database was going too far.

Going too far

It failed two elementary tests. First, it would not work! In Spain the ID card had not prevented terrorist attacks.

The fact that visitors to the UK for less than three months would not be required to have a card rendered the system pointless.

Second, the economy was likely to get worse. Was £2 billion, the minimum cost that had been mentioned, a sensible investment?

The LSE had estimated £5 billion and that figure was expected to rise (£19 billion was mentioned during later discussion). Could this be justified for dubious benefits?

Unjustified

The Government's requirement for data should be the minimum. The speaker had three cards with photographic ID - parliamentary pass, driving licence and gym card. All were voluntary.

The government's proposals had been so comprehensively rubbished it was difficult to understand why they persisted with them. He emphasized again that the expenditure had never been justified.

Policy

He was asked whether, although David Cameron had said he would abolish ID cards, the Conservatives would change their position once in power. He replied that the economy would drive the policy.

He was also asked about the contradiction between Holyrood's opposition to the UK ID card and the implementation of the Scottish National Entitlement Card.

He replied that it was possible to be supersensitive about data holdings. It was the manner of their use that was the problem. He saw real benefits especially for older people in access to medical records in emergencies.

Discussion

Discussion ranged widely, including: